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Post by Acro on Aug 17, 2015 1:27:58 GMT
I was told by Mark that he did not have the password. I went to Lavan and asked if he did. A few days later, as Lavan was on vacation, Lavan replied that he did not. I told him that mark did not have it either.
Lavan soon after created his own puppet for citizenship. As i said before I did not think much of Mark having and running the office until later when I truly began to think about it. I consulted with a source, who I will reveal to you in private, I wanted to figure out if this was illegal.
I telegrammed you at some point, I believe it was over a week ago, about possibly bring charge against Markotovia. You requested I gather evidence for a hearing and I passed this on to Lavan. Who gathered the evidence for the trial.
As mark stated it is a coincidence that this corresponds to the elections. And it is just that a coincidence. Nothing more than that
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Post by Ruclax on Aug 17, 2015 1:30:05 GMT
Very well.
And Mark, before you rebut, if they created a separate account to collect and administer the system, as was his right, why did you continue to use the account as the official account.
Even after a serpate account was made because you couldn't give them the password?
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Post by Markotovia on Aug 17, 2015 1:32:21 GMT
Very well. And Mark, before you rebut, if they created a separate account to collect and administer the system, as was his right, why did you continue to use the account as the official account. Even after a serpate account was made because you couldn't give them the password? Well one, I could tell that the new account was not going to be helpful as it was not listed on the WFE and had no Factbook. No application, no roster, nothing. Just an account. And I want to make a statement not a rebuttal. May I? |
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Post by Ruclax on Aug 17, 2015 1:34:52 GMT
Very well. And Mark, before you rebut, if they created a separate account to collect and administer the system, as was his right, why did you continue to use the account as the official account. Even after a serpate account was made because you couldn't give them the password? Well one, I could tell that the new account was not going to be helpful as it was not listed on the WFE and had no Factbook. No application, no roster, nothing. Just an account. And I want to make a statement not a rebuttal. May I? Yes, go ahead. And Acro please be ready to answer why there was no application, no roaster and nothing. Why was that new account not equipped properly? |
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Post by Acro on Aug 17, 2015 1:37:26 GMT
The citizenship app has always been on the WFE. I did not control the new Internal Affairs puppet. That was lavans, you will have to ask him for information on that
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Post by Markotovia on Aug 17, 2015 1:38:22 GMT
I really don't want to make this more complicated but if we are questioning the legality of my handling of the account, then why are we not questioning Acro's?
In the Ministerial Deputies Act, it states: Grants the Ministers the ability to delegate tasks to their deputy as long as the task is not crucial to the security and functioning of the region.
We can all agree here that handling the Citizenship Office is a daunting task, crucial to our security. So Acro, who was a Deputy, would not be able to handle the account, making his involvement just as questionable as mine.
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Post by Ruclax on Aug 17, 2015 1:42:37 GMT
The citizenship app has always been on the WFE. I did not control the new Internal Affairs puppet. That was lavans, you will have to ask him for information on that I shall when we reconvene. |
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Post by Ruclax on Aug 17, 2015 1:50:38 GMT
I really don't want to make this more complicated but if we are questioning the legality of my handling of the account, then why are we not questioning Acro's? In the Ministerial Deputies Act, it states: Grants the Ministers the ability to delegate tasks to their deputy as long as the task is not crucial to the security and functioning of the region.We can all agree here that handling the Citizenship Office is a daunting task, crucial to our security. So Acro, who was a Deputy, would not be able to handle the account, making his involvement just as questionable as mine. Yes that's true. So if you want to use that logic....you...still....even as former MOIA....did not have any legal sanction to operate. Yes, you had a practical tools to operate the office because of the password although no legality to it. Again, I understand why you did what you did, and why that was necessary although, again, it was not yours to continue using, even with the password mishap. From what I can tell at this point, ALL. OF. YOU. are at some fault for this. |
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Post by Ruclax on Aug 17, 2015 1:51:25 GMT
*sips coffee and writes a bit. Finished writing*
Does anyone have anything else to add before I adjourn this Hearing and render a judgement?
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Post by Markotovia on Aug 17, 2015 1:59:07 GMT
Yes. I do hope you put this all behind and not bring this to court. The Office is fine and will be fine no matter the outcome, so I ask that you not make it bigger than it needs to be.
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Post by Ruclax on Aug 17, 2015 2:02:01 GMT
*gathers papers. Signals Court Police Offices to open the doors.
Bangs gavel*
This Preliminary Hearing is adjourned and I will render a judgement anytime from now until 3:00AM EST.
Parties are dismissed. Court is Adjourned
*bangs gavel, leaves chiar*.
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Post by Ruclax on Aug 17, 2015 6:46:50 GMT
JUDGEMENT FOR HEARING: proposed Lavan v. Markotovia*Comes in swiftly and sits in chair.* From all the evidence that was presented and the testimony given its extremely apparent that all parties are at fault here and contributed to this situation we find ourselves in. Everyone is at fault. One, Lavan for deciding to run for Minister of Internal Affairs when he knew that vacation was coming and he would not be able to exercise his duties; even if that exact circumstance were not to be true I would still think that someone would have ample time to prepare for a vacation and thus alert the proper people to the upcoming absence and therefore have those who need to be ready to take over do just that. Secondly, Mark for, even after being contacting by the Deputy of Internal Affairs, continuing to run the office without legal sanction. Thirdly, again, Lavan, even when the issues of Mark's running of the office could not be solved, you did not do enough to counter Mark's public efforts to still use his account for citizenship; granted you should not have had to however there should have been more of a publicized effort to have people apply to your new account and you should have made this a legal issue for the onset. Waiting this long only creates more a problem. Fourthly, again, Mark, even when Lavan and Acro created another account to be used for the citizenship office, which is rightly his, you still continued to use your account for official purposes. Lastly, just to reiterate, everyone here played into this mess of a situation. And because of that fact I will not hear this case in court. Therefore the proposed case is dismissed. The next time something like this should happen again, I assure you all it will be met with the full force of the Law. This Hearing is closed. *bangs gavel twice and leaves chair* 
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Post by Markotovia on Aug 17, 2015 10:51:06 GMT
Thank you your Honour
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Post by Jaslandia on Aug 17, 2015 16:27:20 GMT
I understand. Thank you, Your Honor.
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