Ruclax
Court Administrator
Posts: 328 
WA Member: Yes
CFN Political Party: Liberal Party
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Post by Ruclax on Aug 16, 2015 22:42:52 GMT
Thank you. Please issue a summons for ArcoWA, I would like to speak to him on this matter.
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Post by Lavan Tiri on Aug 16, 2015 23:17:26 GMT
You had questions for me, your Honor?
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Ruclax
Court Administrator
Posts: 328
WA Member: Yes
CFN Political Party: Liberal Party
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Post by Ruclax on Aug 16, 2015 23:21:31 GMT
Yes,
Please throughly explain to me the situation and simply show me, not explain, the evidence you have.
Also please see the RMB post I posted replying to you...on NS.
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Post by Lavan Tiri on Aug 16, 2015 23:25:58 GMT
I apologize for the delay, Your Honor. I am here today representing Mr. Lavan Tiri. Now, while it is true that other matters prevented Lavan from attending to affairs, my main arguments is that Markotovia had no authority to access the citizenship office. There is nothing in the CFN Law Code that justifies Mark's usurpation of power. If someone needed to manage citizenship in Mark's absence, it should have be Acro WA, Lavan's deputy at the time. Mark wasn't even in the Cabinet at the time of this incident. In short, Mark's use of the citizenship office is not legally justified in any way, shape or form, especially when there were others who had a better legal claim to take over Lavan's powers in the interim. Your Honor, Mr. Jas has already summed up a great deal of my case for me, but there were a few things I didn't remember to notify him of: Firstly, I in no way argue that I wasn't inactive, and I should've actually done my job as MoIA. In that area, Markotovia is correct. However, your Honor, Mark was neither the Minister, nor the Deputy. I had authorized Acro to do my job if I was unavailable, and asked multiple times on the RMB for people to send their applications to both myself and Acro. But there's a reason that applications sent to the Citizenship Office never were answered, and that is that I never had the password. Mark, who was my predecessor, would never have been able to log in had I been in control of the nation; I would change the password to keep him from logging in to the Office. But he never gave or told me the password, thus preventing me from doing my job. |
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Post by Lavan Tiri on Aug 16, 2015 23:33:40 GMT
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Post by Markotovia on Aug 16, 2015 23:50:32 GMT
Am I allowed to make comments at this time?
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Ruclax
Court Administrator
Posts: 328
WA Member: Yes
CFN Political Party: Liberal Party
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Post by Ruclax on Aug 16, 2015 23:58:56 GMT
Very well.
* he looks at Mark*
You may rebuttal to me, not him.
Go ahed Sir
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Post by Markotovia on Aug 17, 2015 0:07:28 GMT
Well, we can all stop showing screenshots of me admitting to doing it, because like I said before: I did it and I am proud of it.
Secondly, I was just going over with Azoria and I have said this numerous times to the CFN. On my Mac, there is something called "Keychains" in which you don't have to remember your username and password as it will autofill it for you. So after a while I never had to memorize the Office's password as it autofilled it. So I did truly forget the password. But, nevertheless, Lavan never said once that he didn't have the password. So even if I knew it, I wouldn't know to give it to him because I thought he had it. Instead, he brings me to court saying I never gave it to him. As well, Everest gave me the password and I had assumed he would give it to him as well. But to reinstate, Lavan never said he did not have the password so how was I supposed to know? I have reason to suspect this was done intentionally, to bring me to court during the times of the elections to tarnish my appearance. As you said yourself your Honour, why bring it up now, and let it get this far?
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Post by Lavan Tiri on Aug 17, 2015 0:10:50 GMT
Rebuttal, Your Honor?
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Ruclax
Court Administrator
Posts: 328
WA Member: Yes
CFN Political Party: Liberal Party
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Post by Ruclax on Aug 17, 2015 0:16:33 GMT
Yes, Lavan, allowed. Go ahead.
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Post by Lavan Tiri on Aug 17, 2015 0:19:37 GMT
Thank you, Your Honor.
Mark, Your Honor, that honestly didn't occur to me as an option at the time. In addition, you (Mark) could've changed the password, and given it to me. You can do that without memorizing the password. At any rate, you knowing the password does not excuse your unlawful use of the nation.
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Ruclax
Court Administrator
Posts: 328
WA Member: Yes
CFN Political Party: Liberal Party
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Post by Ruclax on Aug 17, 2015 0:22:09 GMT
*He looks at Court Police Officer. The CPO esorts Acro to a poduim in front of the bench*
Also AcroWA, prepare yourself. To answer the following questions:
-When did you knew Lavan was inactive? Did you take steps to take control of the situation and the office? And if so, what were those measures? Did you know that Mark was using the office? And what exactly were you aware of during all of this?
Please answer those as thoroughly as you can
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Post by Markotovia on Aug 17, 2015 0:24:55 GMT
Rebuttal your Honour?
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Ruclax
Court Administrator
Posts: 328
WA Member: Yes
CFN Political Party: Liberal Party
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Post by Ruclax on Aug 17, 2015 0:26:36 GMT
Sustained. Yes, you may. *he also looks at Acro* Mr. Acro please have those answers ready. Thank you! Go Ahed Mr. Mark |
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Post by Acro on Aug 17, 2015 0:28:41 GMT
Your Honor,
I first realized Lavan had become inactive when a few newer nations began complaining about slow citizenship process. This was soon after he went on a series of vacations. I took several steps rather quickly, I requested Everstopia to change the factbook to list me as acting Minister of Internal Affairs. However Evers went inactive around that time so it was not changed. I asked around to find out who had access to the CFN Citizenship office and learned mark had access to it. When i requested access as was my right as Deputy MoIA. Mark told me that he didnt have the password. He also told me he was using the office.
I admit I didn't think anything of it at the time, I wish I had so that I would have archived the message.
I posted multiple times when new members joined the region, and told them to send citizenship applications to my personal nation as Mark had no legal authority to operate the citizenship office.
However several nations that are marked as citizens were not approved by me, and were approved during Lavans hiatus. I can only assume, though I do admit I am not certain, that Mark illegally used the powers of the office to grant them citizenship.
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