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Post by Vista Major on Feb 12, 2015 0:19:13 GMT
DATE: February 11th, 2015 AD
PROPOSAL: On this day, the 11th of February, the nation Vista Major, Minister of Foreign Affairs in the Commonwealth, received a formal complaint from the President of the region Genuan Rebirth, Sovietia, that Unfallious, a citizen of the Commonwealth, is accused of disrupting the reputation of the region. The evidence lies in a factbook held by the nation Unfallious. It is explicitly stated in The Communications Code "that all individuals are to respect others at all times". This being said, Unfallious is hereby accused of violating The Communications Code and Treason.
OFFICIALLY PROPOSED
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Post by Unfallious on Feb 12, 2015 1:13:30 GMT
Stating for the record, that as Vista Major is both a CFN resident and the co-founder of the political party I'm part of he may not be fit to represent the prosecution in this trial.
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Ruclax
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Post by Ruclax on Feb 12, 2015 1:21:07 GMT
I will oversee this case.
Before this Proposed case is officially recognized as legitimate inside the law I need there need to be some changes with wording and clarification on the parties involved.
1. Because the case is being proposed by the Minister of Foreign Affairs on the behalf of another region(country) the parties must be changed to The Commonwealth of Free Nations v. Ufallious. This is due tot he fact that the CFN government is prosecuting one of it's citizens on allegedly breaking the law and causing harm on a ally region. Meaning that this is a criminal case- The State v. a Citizen. Except in this case it's The State, acting on behalf of another State v. the citizen who broke the laws of said state he belongs to.
2. With that clarified, answering Ufallious about the political parties, if both of you are in the same parties and are active together in political events then there is a conflict of interest here. The Attorney General(MoJ) needs to be the one to prosecute this case.
3. I need the Prosecution to post the evidence to my Office Thread in a neat format. One of those pieces of evidence MUST BE the formal letter to you, Minister, from the Genuan Rebirth Region, outlining their complaint about Mr. Ufalllious, along with any other evidence you feel is permissible.
Once I have all the evidence from the Prosecution, and the question are answered then we will proceed.
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Post by Vista Major on Feb 12, 2015 1:35:56 GMT
Stating for the record, that as Vista Major is both a CFN resident and the co-founder of the political party I'm part of he may not be fit to represent the prosecution in this trial. If the court requests, I shall find someone else to represent the region in question.
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Ruclax
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Post by Ruclax on Feb 12, 2015 2:32:57 GMT
Ok thank you for the submission.
The next thing I need to you to submit are the RMB messages on GR that the evidence stated
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Post by Unfallious on Feb 12, 2015 15:56:33 GMT
I will oversee this case. Before this Proposed case is officially recognized as legitimate inside the law I need there need to be some changes with wording and clarification on the parties involved. 1. Because the case is being proposed by the Minister of Foreign Affairs on the behalf of another region(country) the parties must be changed to The Commonwealth of Free Nations v. Ufallious. This is due tot he fact that the CFN government is prosecuting one of it's citizens on allegedly breaking the law and causing harm on a ally region. Meaning that this is a criminal case- The State v. a Citizen. Except in this case it's The State, acting on behalf of another State v. the citizen who broke the laws of said state he belongs to. Your honour, I do not believe that Vista is acting on behalf of the cabinet when proposing this case, therefore I don't think it's the state prosecuting one of it's own citizens, but another state (GR) prosecuting the citizen of another region (Unfallious).
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Post by Vista Major on Feb 13, 2015 1:34:49 GMT
After some thought, I have decided to postpone my trial against Unfallious, citing a change in the demand for retribution. However, I will continue to press charges if it is still desired by our allies. A final decision shall be made by the 17th of this month.
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Ruclax
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Post by Ruclax on Feb 13, 2015 5:39:12 GMT
I will oversee this case. Before this Proposed case is officially recognized as legitimate inside the law I need there need to be some changes with wording and clarification on the parties involved. 1. Because the case is being proposed by the Minister of Foreign Affairs on the behalf of another region(country) the parties must be changed to The Commonwealth of Free Nations v. Ufallious. This is due tot he fact that the CFN government is prosecuting one of it's citizens on allegedly breaking the law and causing harm on a ally region. Meaning that this is a criminal case- The State v. a Citizen. Except in this case it's The State, acting on behalf of another State v. the citizen who broke the laws of said state he belongs to. Your honour, I do not believe that Vista is acting on behalf of the cabinet when proposing this case, therefore I don't think it's the state prosecuting one of it's own citizens, but another state (GR) prosecuting the citizen of another region (Unfallious). Being that Vista is a cabinet Officer, acting on behalf of another country, who is an ally, he is prosecuting you to defend the alliance we have- to safegaurd our alliance if you will because it has been threaten(as the evidence I looked at suggested by your alleged actions- therefore the CFN is prosecuting you to defense on the alliance. There is a reason that the Pres. of GR reached out to Vista...it's because he is the MOFA and he represents the CFN's interests. And therefore an action to prosecute you, on behalf and in interest of another ally, is therefore an action taken by this state in defense and in response to an allies wants.
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Post by Ruclax on Feb 13, 2015 5:42:44 GMT
After some thought, I have decided to decide another path for holding Unfallious accountable for his actions. I desire to drop this proposal against him. Dropping the case is okay and fine Minister but the " another path for holding him accountable for his actions" concerns me allot. You cannot hold him accountable for actions that are not proven to be criminal. You might think they are but it must be proven in the court of law first with evidence, testimony, hearings and statements from both sides. It is a direct infringement of Mr. Ufallious's rights to a fair and speedy trail...should you seek other means to hold him accountable. What do you means by another path? Because, really, there is no other path to hold him accountable. If the state or a fellow citizen wants to punish someone and hold them acceptable for actions thought to be criminal then there must be a trial....as it is the RIGHT of every citizen here. What I want to make clear here is that Mr. Ufallious IS INNOCENT until proven Guilty. Therefore no other paths should be taken to seek punishment unless it's through the court and trail system. One of the many aspects of the Judicial system is to to protect the citizen from the power of the government and I do not want to see Mr. Ufallious suffer punishment or the like without a trial and verdict....that would end up in a huge mess for the state and a more then warranted suit by Mr. Ufallious. Please let this court know as soon as possible whether the state will pursue this case or not.
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Post by Vista Major on Feb 17, 2015 21:53:02 GMT
I now seek to renew this case, after consulting with the "victims".
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Post by Ruclax on Feb 18, 2015 2:58:20 GMT
This proposal is DISMISSED due to lack of action from both sides.
If the State still wishes to pursue this case then it will need to be re-filed and submitted once again.
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