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Post by Unfallious on Feb 12, 2015 17:20:16 GMT
Foreign Citizenship Clarification Act
Appalled that more rights are granted to nations not residing within CFN than are granted to non-WA nations within CFN.
Concerned that foreign regions may be able to use the foreign citizenship system within CFN to influence politics within the region on a mass scale.
HEREBY DECREES:
I. Nations may only apply for foreign citizenship after having resided within CFN for a period of 1 month with Resident tier citizenship.
II. Citizens/Residents that leave CFN for a period of 2 weeks* without applying for foreign citizenship will have their citizenship suspended, the Minister of Internal Affairs must inform the nation of this suspension, citing this act.
III. Nations with foreign citizenship that do not reside in an ally region are to be stripped of all citizenship after 2 months.
IV. Citizens/Residents that leave CFN without applying for foreign citizenship will be stripped of all citizenship 2 weeks after the suspension of their citizenship, as outlined in clause II.
V. Nations currently in possession of foreign citizenship (as of February 11th 2015) will retain it, but may be stripped of all citizenship if they reside in a non-ally region for a period of 2 months, as per clause III.
VI. The Minister of Internal Affairs may override clauses II and III if a valid reason is given.
*For a citizen/resident to be counted as having left CFN both their main nation and all registered puppets must be outside the Commonwealth and her dominions.
Endorsed by:
Unfallious
Markotovia
Vista Major
AOS
Aljeska
COLDR
Denounced by:
Vladovaskia
Jaslandia
Sulania
Everestopia
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Post by Markotovia on Feb 12, 2015 22:47:43 GMT
I OFFCIIALLY endorse this bill
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Post by Vista Major on Feb 13, 2015 1:39:06 GMT
ENDORSED
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Post by AOS on Feb 14, 2015 1:55:40 GMT
I endorse
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Post by Vladovaskia on Feb 14, 2015 5:04:20 GMT
While I do see what this bill is trying to address, and I side with Dalek that some security measures should be put in place around foreign citizenship, I believe this law is a bit too extreme with those measures, many of which could be handled in a more relaxed way, rather than effectively turning the foreign citizen into more of a "stationed in the CFN but I travel occasionally" citizen.
I hereby DENOUNCE this bill.
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Post by Vladovaskia on Feb 14, 2015 5:10:51 GMT
Upon further reflection, I see I never really made a solid point as to why I denounce the bill. I feel that this sort of legislation will negatively impact our citizenship, lowering our number of voters, and ultimately our activity as a region.
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Post by AOS on Feb 14, 2015 5:50:04 GMT
Upon further reflection, I see I never really made a solid point as to why I denounce the bill. I feel that this sort of legislation will negatively impact our citizenship, lowering our number of voters, and ultimately our activity as a region. We already have a low activity with only 11 people voting on bills. |
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Post by Jaslandia on Feb 14, 2015 20:34:54 GMT
I'm inclined to agree with Vlad that these measures are too extreme, so I hereby denounce this bill.
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Post by Vladovaskia on Feb 15, 2015 1:45:04 GMT
Upon further reflection, I see I never really made a solid point as to why I denounce the bill. I feel that this sort of legislation will negatively impact our citizenship, lowering our number of voters, and ultimately our activity as a region. We already have a low activity with only 11 people voting on bills. Why make that lower? |
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Post by Unfallious on Feb 15, 2015 14:16:50 GMT
While I do see what this bill is trying to address, and I side with Dalek that some security measures should be put in place around foreign citizenship, I believe this law is a bit too extreme with those measures, many of which could be handled in a more relaxed way, rather than effectively turning the foreign citizen into more of a "stationed in the CFN but I travel occasionally" citizen. I hereby DENOUNCE this bill. I do understand your point, but I believe that isn't an issue with the entire bill. Just with clause III. If someone leaves the region and doesn't apply for foreign citizenship then why should we allow them to retain citizenship? It's obvious that they don't have much intention to continue being an active member of the region, therefore I believe Clause II is justified. However, Clause III is the one that dictates how long someone may live outside of both the home region and any allied region (For example, if someone lives in GR they will never lose FC since that's an allied region) before they lose citizenship altogether. Why someone may want to live outside of both CFN and an allied region and still take an active part of CFN affairs is a mystery to me, but I believe that clause III could be extended to, say 6 months, and that would clear up most of the concerns you'd have with the bill. |
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Post by Everestopia on Feb 15, 2015 18:35:07 GMT
I hereby denounce this bill.
As much as I agree citizenship is in need of change, I must say I do find the requirement for days in the CFN suggested some what extreme.
It will only deter people from becoming a Citizen.
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Post by Sulania on Feb 15, 2015 19:05:11 GMT
I hereby Denounce this bill.
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Aljeska
New Member
Posts: 6 
Nation: Aljeska
WA Member: Yes
CFN Political Party: The Reformation Party
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Post by Aljeska on Feb 16, 2015 19:26:07 GMT
I Endorse This Bill
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Post by Unfallious on Feb 17, 2015 21:02:53 GMT
I hereby denounce this bill.As much as I agree citizenship is in need of change, I must say I do find the requirement for days in the CFN suggested some what extreme. It will only deter people from becoming a Citizen. Not really. Who applies for citizenship while outside the region? People who A) Want to participate more in our region while living in another due to restrictions/ties. B) People who seek to influence our region while living in another region. The people in option A are covered for in the bill, people like Al won't lose their citizenship and never will because they live in an allied region. Foreign citizens do not help our region, they're not as reliable as citizens, we can't rely on them to come to our aid if the WAD is threatened. If it deters people from becoming citizens who minimally participate within the region then so be it, but it'll protect the region from outside influence, preserving our democracy while also making sure that if people do want to move to other regions while still participating within CFN that they can, as long as the region they're moving to is an ally of CFN of which a large amount of regions are. |
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Post by Unfallious on Feb 17, 2015 21:39:02 GMT
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